And why do the people who think children should be idolized and empowered once they are born fight for the right to kill children before they are born?

The truth is that children are not sinless creatures like puppies. They are sinful. And their sin needs to be driven out of them. If we leave them to themselves they will never be saved. If we reward good behavior while bad behavior has no bad consequences, the children will do the evil, because there is always a payoff for evil behavior. It always feels good to yell or to nag or to throw a fit. It is beneficial in the child’s mind to lie to protect your reputation or to avoid punishment. There is a reward for stealing or committing adultery. There is always immediate positive reinforcement for evil behavior. That’s why we do it. Stolen water tastes sweet.

Parents who refuse to do the hard work of making sure that sin hurts more than it feels good are guilty of child-neglect and are helping their children travel down the road to hell.

So on the heels of my last post about not being sarcastic, I stumble today upon these eight points put out by people who call themselves Progressive Christians.

And boy, oh boy, am I itching to be sarcastic.

Why is that? Why do I want to point and laugh at  these poor, blind people as they follow their naked emperor to hell?

Maybe because I’m so frustrated over the fact that there is no way to talk to them. There is no way to reason with these people. If they have scorned God’s word, why would they listen to anything I have to say? If they refuse to bow to the authority of God’s word, how can I gently rebuke or try to correct and call them back?

Even so, I may, if I have time, take apart their points, one at a time, to compare them with scripture. Who knows? That may help others who are thinking of joining these heretics and who are not aware of what the Bible says on these matters. At the very least it will relieve the urge I have to hurl sarcasm at these unfortunate souls.

We here at Kickin’ it With Calvin love sarcasm. When sarcasm is done well we really laugh. One of the reasons I, Rabidly Reformed, AKA The Cranky Calvinist, don’t use much sarcasm is that I don’t do it well. Proper sarcasm is an art. There are certain people who are talented in this art. The rest of us…not so much.

We love reading books with the New York attitude and wish we weren’t such Harvey Milquetoasts. We think up snappy comebacks as we lie in our beds at night and wish we were quicker on our feet.

Alas, we are not.

So we have to leave the comedy to others.

One thing that bothers me, though,  is when Christians sarcastically correct errors in others. I was sarcastic with my little video about feminists. I think that’s such a highly fought argument that everyone knows I was blowing their words to the farthest edge in the same way the ones who made videos about Calvinists and Arminians were doing.

But what about attacking an individual? What if one person…oh say, Benny Hinn…is sinning in the way he handles scripture? Should we speak out against his sin?

I think so. I think when someone sins publicly you have to call him out publicly. Paul rebuked Peter publicly because he was leading others astray.

But should I make a joke out of his sin? Should I rebuke individuals using sarcasm? Or should I just point out that he says this, but the Bible says that, therefore if we ignore Hinn we will benefit greatly?

I think that sarcasm is fun. It feels good. But if you want to save a brother, you have to speak in love, and if you want to save followers of false teachers you have to speak in love. Paul got pretty feisty a few times. But he was not really sarcastic. He was plain spoken. He was angry. He told people to watch out for false teachers and he spoke very angrily about those false teachers. But he didn’t come across as bashing others in an attempt to elevate himself. I can take the strong words from Paul. I can take them from others, too, if they are very careful and speak the truth and if they come across as loving and not gloating. Unfortunately, some—in the Reformed camp, yes, I am talking about my own brothers here—are not careful and they do not sound loving or even like they are righteously indignant. Instead they sound jealous and petty. It’s not pretty.

I’m trying to pray more before I post. Because, as I said, I love sarcasm and would love to thrash quite a few people, or to give it my best shot, anyway.

But, you know, to say sarcasm is better than killing people is sarcastic. You got that, right? In God’s eyes character assassination is the same kind of sin as really assassinating people. To try to kill people’s reputations comes from the same place wanting to kill them comes from. Our pride.

Franky. Dude! Maybe you should speak to Christians about where you think their motives are evil instead of speaking to reporters who are practiced in leading people with their questions.

And maybe you shouldn’t assume that because your motives were evil everyone else’s motives are evil also.

In any case, in keeping with your advice that we call lies, lies…um…I am not a huge fan of Dobson or the religious right, but I seriously doubt whether Dobson ever said that you should beat your children literally until they fall into your arms. I think you are lying about him.

Franky, for someone who wants us to ask questions instead of giving answer, you sure have a lot of answers. And now you apparently have moved out of the Orthodox Church, unless that church has gone to places recently that were before not heard of. You say that no one is going to hell. That’s not an Orthodox view as far as I know. And that’s the real lie—that no one is going to hell. Either you’re lying or Jesus is.

We now get to part four of Bob Vincent’s paper on our compassionate God and the suffering of men.

God rejects sin, disease, death and hell

The God of mercy also rejects sin, disease, death and hell, and he demonstrates that in the Incarnation.  In the face of Jesus of Nazareth, I see God.

I see that God is both one and three, fully transcendent, yet fully immanent, that the one “who works all things after the counsel of his own will” (Ephesians 1:11.) also rejects sin, disease, death and hell by becoming part of his own creation.

In Jesus of Nazareth, God, the second person of the blessed Trinity, without ceasing to be God, becomes a human being.  He hungers and thirsts, weeps and wrestles with temptation and fear, becomes impotent against evil and limited in knowledge, experiences the guilt and pain of humanity—his lot, too, is the loneliness, alienation and abandonment that characterize human experience.  The damning God becomes damned, in his human nature, and dies on the cross.

I do not understand this God, his eternal, immutable decree, nor his stooping to my weakness in love. I cannot comprehend how the same God who has elected people to eternal salvation for reasons known only to himself and not based on anything good or commendable in them, sincerely, earnestly and passionately invites all people to come to him and vests mere mortals, the Church, with the task of proclaiming this good news.

There are simply so many things that the Bible never tells me about God, and so I defer my questions about who he is and why he has done what he has done to another time, a time when I will see him as he is, and when I will fully know, even as I am fully known, but until then I walk by faith, not by sight. (1 John 3:2; 1 Corinthians 13:12; 2 Corinthians 5:7.)

After walking with him for over forty years, I have come to know the voice of the good Shepherd. (John 10:4, 5.) He has demonstrated his love in countless ways over the years in my experience.  I have seen him physically heal people, sometimes in a moment of time.  Our congregation is filled with people who have come to the Lord Jesus bound in the chains of adultery, drunkenness, homosexuality and violent, hateful bitterness, and they have been set free, their bitterness and bondage gone, their sanity restored.  I have seen him heal marriages, set people free from demons and provide for human needs in all kinds of ways, sometimes with huge sums of money, seemingly out of the blue, at just the right time. ¹

All of this demonstrates that God—whom I do not fully understand and whose ways sometimes trouble me—is a God of mercy, kindness, love and grace.  His own character and disposition to the entire human family is mirrored in his command through Paul:  “Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.” (Galatians 6:10.) He commands this because, he “is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.” (1 Timothy 4:10.)

God’s gracious act of redemption in Jesus Christ is both universal and particular—being sufficient for every sin ever committed and making possible the sincere and true offer of salvation to every human being, while at the same time actually procuring the salvation of all those whom the Father has given to the Son, a multitude so great that no one can count, from every nation, tribe, people and language. (1 John 2:2; 1 Timothy 2:3-6; John 3:16; John 10:11, 15-16, 26-30; Titus 3:4-7; Revelation 7:9.) The Sovereign Elector of Romans 9:10-24 extends his hands in mercy to people who are disobedient and obstinate in Romans 10:21. Based on the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ, ‘The Spirit and the bride (can now) say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.’ (Revelation 22:17.)

Those who spurn God’s gracious offer justly go to hell, for while salvation is based entirely on grace, damnation is based entirely on works. And while no one who is in heaven deserves to be there, everyone who is in hell deserves to be there. One blessed and dreadful day, even Satan himself and every man and woman will bow their knees and acknowledge that God is just in all his ways. (Isaiah 45:23-25; Romans 3:4ff.; 14:11; Philippians 2:10, 11.)

I find my bitterness and fear go and my sanity restored, when I, like the Psalmist (whose words I quoted earlier.) “do not concern myself with great matters or things too profound for me. But I have stilled and quieted my soul; like a weaned child with its mother, like a weaned child is my soul within me.” (Psalm 131:1, 2.) I don’t think that is partitioning my thinking, but it is a choosing not to think too deeply with my fallen, finite and fallible reason.

As I adore this God in worship, I find myself changed. I receive him in the proclamation and in the breaking of bread, and I praise him with my life and lips.

“Jesus, Thy blood and righteousness
My beauty are, my glorious dress;
Midst flaming worlds, in these arrayed,
With joy shall I lift up my head.

“Bold shall I stand in Thy great day,
For who aught to my charge shall lay?
Fully absolved from these I am,
From sin and fear, from guilt and shame.”

Nicolaus L. von Zinzendorf

footnotes:

We now get to part four of Bob Vincent’s paper on our compassionate God and the suffering of men.

The dominant motif in the nature of God

Scripture tells us that God’s very nature is mercy and that while justice is part of God’s character, his delight is love and mercy. This is seen in one of the most important texts of the Old Testament, Exodus 34:5-7:

Then the LORD came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the LORD. And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation.”

Exodus 34:5-7 is a central passage of the Old Testament and is quoted repeatedly by other Old Testament writers: e.g. Numbers 14:18; Nehemiah 9:17; Psalm 86:15; 103:8; 145:8; Joel 2:13; Jonah 4:2.  The quotation in Jonah is very revealing in terms of God’s disposition toward the heathen: ‘But Jonah was greatly displeased and became angry. He prayed to Yahweh, “O Yahweh, is this not what I said when I was still at home? That is why I was so quick to flee to Tarshish. I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity.”’ Jonah hated these northerners, the Assyrians, and he wanted to see their capitol destroyed. His reason for not bringing the message of God’s offered mercy to them was that he knew God’s character; he knew that God is love, quick to forgive all who turn from their sin to him. And Jonah knew this because he knew the message of the Torah, for the Torah is Yahweh’s Direction, not only about how Israel ought to live under covenant with him, but also Direction pointing to him, who he is in his very essence, and that essence is loving kindness and delight in forgiveness. While it does not exclude judgment, even generational judgment, it focuses on mercy, kindness and forgiveness.

That is the message that we must take to those who have never heard the good news of Jesus Christ. For those who have never heard, whatever else may be true at the divine bar, they, too, will admit that their punishment is wholly deserved. But at that bar also stands a Savior who shed his blood for sin and the great Judge is one who is theGod of Exodus 34.

We now get to part four of Bob Vincent’s paper on our compassionate God and the suffering of men.

God and Justice

Justice is an interesting concept, and a key verse for understanding what the Bible means by it is Micah 6:8: “He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?”

This passage is very rich, and several Hebrew words stand out, but the word I want to pursue is Mishpat, often translated by “justice.” Two passages throw light on the underlying connotation of this interesting Hebrew word, Exodus 26:30 and 1 Kings 6:38.

“Then you shall erect the tabernacle according to the plan (Mishpat) for it that you were shown on the mountain.” (Exodus 26:30.)

“And in the eleventh year, in the month of Bul, which is the eighth month, the house was finished in all its parts, and according to all its specifications (Mishpat). He was seven years in building it.” (1 Kings 6:38.)

Here we see that an underlying meaning in Mishpat is conformity to specifications: in these two cases, following the building plans. As we flesh out the meaning of Mishpat inductively by studying the various contexts where it is found, a picture emerges:  justice is conformity—in the case of morality, to the model of God’s own holy nature, his character as he has revealed it as the pattern for human conduct.  God reveals his own moral nature in two fundamental directives:  loving God with the whole of our being and loving others as we love ourselves.  These two directives are fleshed out in many commands; indeed, just as a door hangs and swings on its hinges, the entire Old Testament hangs on these two commandments. (Matthew 22:34-40.)

The Ten Commandments are not independent of God, as if he were bound by some abstract moral principle that is above him and separate from his existence; rather they refract the very character of God himself, his own morality. In effect, they codify, within the ethos and milieu of Israel in the Second Millennium before Christ, God’s own moral character. A beautiful analogy to this is found in how a prism refracts light into its various colors. These commandments are right simply because they are consistent with who God is. In other words, murder, adultery and stealing would not be wrong if they were not contrary to God’s own nature; were there no God, there would be no right and no wrong. As Dostoevsky said, “If God does not exist, then everything is permitted.”

This moral nature of God stamped on the human soul is part of what it means for us to be created in the image of God, an image that was radically marred, gnarled, broken and twisted in the fall, but not completely lost. In the fall man lost more than a gift of super added grace (donum superadditum.); rather, the totality of his being, including his intellect, was radically affected by sin.  Humankind is totally but not utterly depraved; man is not as bad as he can possibly be.  There remains in fallen man the shattered image of God, including moral judgment because humankind is created in the image of God and thereby finitely mirrors God’s own knowledge, righteousness and holiness. (Genesis 1:26; Colossians 3:10; Ephesians 4:24.)  That is to say, even lost people have an innate, intuitive, instinctive sense of right and wrong, based not on experience, nor as an internalized parent—a Freudian superego—but as part of the very essence of what it is to be human.

This knowledge of the true God and of his character exhibits itself imperfectly in the human conscience: “For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them . . .” (Romans 2:14, 15.)  This remnant of the image of God is why even non-Christian people struggle with a sense of indignation at the injustices all around them.

As odd as it may seem, the very reason why human beings recoil at some of the ways of God is because we are all created in his image. It is why humans not only fear hell, but also are revulsed by the very idea of the eternal, conscious suffering of sentient beings. Unregenerate humans act in defiance of God, judging him by their own independent, autonomous intellects and emotions.  Nevertheless, behind that rebellion is a testimony to the remnant of God’s own moral character stamped on the soul of every human being, a divine sense of right and wrong, Mishpat, justice, conformity to the specifications of the Builder.

The Lord Jesus, as the Second Adam, is pre-eminently Man in the Image of God, restoring what was lost to us by our first father. (1 Corinthians 15:45-49; Ephesians 4:20-24; Colossians 3:9-11.) In him, in the fullness of time, all believers will be fully restored to the image of God. Then, and only then, will justice be fully understood. Then, and only then, will justice truly be rendered:

But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you or by any human court. In fact, I do not even judge myself. I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God. (1 Corinthians 4:3-5.)

Until that Day, all justice in this world is at best a stab in the dark. For not truly knowing our own hearts, (Jeremiah 17:9.) we are incapable of rendering just judgment on others, not only humans, but first and foremost, on him who is the very Archetype of Justice. To sit in judgment of God is the most brazenly arrogant and naively foolish thing fallen man can do.

(to be continued)

We now get to part four of Bob Vincent’s paper on our compassionate God and the suffering of men.

Human nature and choice

Someone asked me:  “If people are sinful by nature, then they have no choice but to act sinfully. (i.e. commit acts of rebellion against God.)  So the question is: how can you justly punish someone for acting in the only way they can? The ideas of personal responsibility and choice usually work their way into our definitions of justice.”

This is an ancient question, similar to the one with which Christ’s holy apostle dealt in Romans 9 (see Romans 9:10-24). Paul, while recognizing the difficulties you raise, essentially responds by warning us that we cannot question God. This is not an answer that most of us modern folk, especially those of us in the West, are comfortable with. Our Weltanschauung, the distorting glasses through which we look at the world and whose vision we naively assume conforms to reality, is radically egalitarian and radically individualistic: we think that no one is superior or inferior to another, that no one can be affected by the actions of another. We live in the days of the final outworking of the bastardization of the Democratic Ideal, and imagine that God himself must conform to our image.

Against such a view, the Scripture holds up a Despot (transliteration of a Greek word used of God and rulers with absolute power over others, e.g. Acts 4:24; Revelation 6:10.) who is wholly righteous and all powerful. Sin is so very serious and so very evil, fundamentally, not because of its impact on other human beings, but because it is an offense against his Majesty. This is what David confessed, dripping with bloody murder of a trusting friend and sordid adultery with that friend’s wife: “Against you, you only, have I sinned and done what is evil in your sight, so that you may be justified in your words and blameless in your judgment.” (Psalm 51:4.)

Because God is God, we must shut our mouths and await the consummation when we will understand and accept all God’s ways as holy and just. We must recapture the vision of the grandeur and greatness of God, as in the old Russian national anthem.

God The All Terrible! King, who ordainest
Thunder Thy clarion, the lightning Thy sword;
Show forth Thy pity on high where Thou reignest:
Give to us peace in our time, O Lord.

God the All-merciful! earth hath forsaken
Thy ways all holy, and slighted Thy word;
Bid not Thy wrath in its terrors awaken:
Give to us peace in our time, O Lord.

God the All-righteous One! man hath defied Thee;
Yet to eternity standeth Thy word,
Falsehood and wrong shall not tarry beside Thee:
Give to us peace in our time, O Lord.

God the All-provident! earth by Thy chastening,
Yet shall to freedom and truth be restored;
Through the thick darkness Thy kingdom is hastening:
Thou wilt give peace in Thy time, O Lord.
Amen.”

Alexis F. Lvov